tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2495971764170848323.post7074840991476443803..comments2024-03-18T09:23:27.626+00:00Comments on When I'm King: Tweet Like a LeftyBatsbyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06426643733506493701noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2495971764170848323.post-27542444062987046892014-08-11T07:59:49.058+01:002014-08-11T07:59:49.058+01:00"You assumed, incorrectly, that anybody gives..."You assumed, incorrectly, that anybody gives a fuck what you think."<br /><br />Actually, I assumed no such thing, but you just tweeted like a lefty! Batsbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06426643733506493701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2495971764170848323.post-43393171144758789522014-08-09T05:49:27.068+01:002014-08-09T05:49:27.068+01:00You assumed, incorrectly, that anybody gives a fuc...You assumed, incorrectly, that anybody gives a fuck what you think. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2495971764170848323.post-32248109401682234362013-05-30T12:32:44.886+01:002013-05-30T12:32:44.886+01:00I read yopur blogp[ost with no intention to misrea...I read yopur blogp[ost with no intention to misread anything. It was the impression you left, though clearly that wasn't what you intended.<br /><br />It is your assertion that "judicial termination is a sensible, pragmatic and appropriate termination of the human rights of one who has set out to deny those rights to others" that interests me, because I cannot discern your underlaying argument. Why is it sensible, pragmatic, etc? <br /><br />You may suspect that I am merely attempting to bait you, but I am not. You hold a genuine view and you assert it. It is what your assertions are based upon that I am trying to uncover.<br /><br />If you don't want a genuine debate with me, just say so and I shall vacate your timeline. I only intervened initially because you post a view in a public forum and I assumed you would be interested in debate.prisonerbenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923205052778958118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2495971764170848323.post-22569614075499236392013-05-30T12:16:54.366+01:002013-05-30T12:16:54.366+01:00"In your blogpost, I get the impression that ..."In your blogpost, I get the impression that you believe that murderers ran amok with regularity and execution is a sensible social prophylactic." <br /><br />Then you read it with the intention of discovering that viewpoint, which I do not hold.<br /><br />Prophylactic? Yes, in some cases, but not as effective as perhaps would be desirable. But judicial termination is a sensible, pragmatic and appropriate termination of the human rights of one who has set out to deny those rights to others. It has nothing to do with barbarity.<br /><br />I didn't engage with you on Twitter for the simple reason that you resorted very early to the ad hominem position that my character - which you assumed to know so well - was that of a bloodthirsty savage. That is not the stance of somebody who would debate, but of somebody who has already decided that the opposite view could not be held by somebody worthy of debate. <br /><br />Well done. Your jeering made my point very clearly. Batsbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06426643733506493701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2495971764170848323.post-69700868860950290542013-05-30T12:03:58.177+01:002013-05-30T12:03:58.177+01:00You make a whole list of accusations there - care ...You make a whole list of accusations there - care to substantiate any of them??? My crime is public knowledge - I discuss it on my blog and my attitudes of what I did 32 years ago. I was not deranged - else I would not have been on trial. I pleaded guilty. I am well aware of the horror I inflicted.<br /><br />But to claim I am dangerous, to claim I campaign for dangerous people to be released to reoffend are both either hyperbole, deliberate lies, or plain libel. <br /><br />Feel free to be disgusted by me. But do so on the proper basis and not your own misperceptions and false assertions.prisonerbenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923205052778958118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2495971764170848323.post-4846386299225534882013-05-30T11:54:39.900+01:002013-05-30T11:54:39.900+01:00Beating an 11 year old boy over the head with a ch...Beating an 11 year old boy over the head with a chair leg until half of his skull is missing is definitely mental derangement and no, I wouldn't have let him out of jail. I've read his blog and researched his background and his crime, and if murdering someone isn't bad enough, he now campaigns for other dangerous people to get the opportunity to re-offend.<br /><br />He disgusts me. <br /><br />Block him from your Twitter because frankly, he is a very dangerous individual. People get put under all kinds of pressure in their lives, parents die, my Wife's Father died in front of her when she was young. She didn't subsequently go around beating people to death with a chair leg for no apparent reason whatsoever.<br /><br />Let's all reflect for a moment what the 11 year old boy was feeling as his hands were being smashed to pieces trying to protect the repeated blows to his skull, before his life was extinguished forever.Chris Fleminghttp://chrisdfleming.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2495971764170848323.post-36920006027420320512013-05-30T11:51:44.442+01:002013-05-30T11:51:44.442+01:00@ Chris Fleming, to insert the diagnosis "soc...@ Chris Fleming, to insert the diagnosis "sociopath" into your comment and then claim its fair and just is a reach....Its a clinical diagnosis, one never made. Insist the guy should never be released, fine, but not on the basis of "sociopath".<br /><br />The Thompson and Venables saga interests me particularly because they raise the question - can such kids be "repaired" and reclaimed by society as decent human beings? And, if so, should they be? For whilst 10 year olds know right from wrong, this is a far cry from having a full appreciation of consequences. <br /><br />To what purpose is locking them up forever intended?prisonerbenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923205052778958118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2495971764170848323.post-70696800828432774602013-05-30T11:42:20.687+01:002013-05-30T11:42:20.687+01:00Actually, I tried to explore your views, which I b...Actually, I tried to explore your views, which I believe are sincere (as opposed to mindless provocation). You were not inclined to debate, which is a pity. Hav9ing the State kill people is a moral, legal and practical morass of complexity and, I think, killing people is a view that requires some discussion and challenge.<br /><br />I do believe that capital punishment is wrong. I accept your view that "the sanctity of life" is a very dodgy concept, with society happily accepting death in many circumstances. I take a stricter view, but ho hum.<br /><br />So, limiting the discussion to State executions and not life in general, I fail to see what useful outcome flows from capital punishment. It does not deter. It does not raise the already dead. And it adds to the sum of human misery following a crime.<br /><br />These are the issues I dearly love to discuss. You chose not to; fine, but it is only reasonable that if you share these views in a public forum, expect them to be challenged. I do, and when engaged try to discuss the issues.<br /><br />In your blogpost, I get the impression that you believe that murderers ran amok with regularity and execution is a sensible social prophylactic. Which is why I asked whether you knew the reoffending rate for murderers. I am assuming that an argument based in part on wrong information may be open to debate and change. I was wrong.<br />prisonerbenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923205052778958118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2495971764170848323.post-65511065044531804962013-05-30T11:13:31.763+01:002013-05-30T11:13:31.763+01:00Did you see the ridiculous posturing of the convic...Did you see the ridiculous posturing of the convicted murderer 'Ben' Gunn the last two evenings on Twitter,on my timeline? (he goes under @prisonerben although @sixfeetunder might be more appropriate.) Several others came to his support but all they had was a 'conviction' that judicial killing was ALWAYS wrong and would brook no dissent from that view. I happen to have a different view and believe that for certain crimes, certain individuals it may be the kindest option all round. But of course MY opinion must not be heard. It didn't take very long for the passive-aggressive insults to pop up.<br /><br />Even after I ignored him on Tuesday night he couldn't help himself. I'd say that sort of repetitive behaviour is indicative of some mental derangement.Batsbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06426643733506493701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2495971764170848323.post-51156506300826593142013-05-30T11:03:40.083+01:002013-05-30T11:03:40.083+01:00An excellent blog entry Sir, as always.
Another e...An excellent blog entry Sir, as always.<br /><br />Another example of this would be the left's insistence that a Sociopathic Child-Killing Paedophile should be reformed and sent back into society with a new identity. He became a project for the left.<br /><br />He subsequently re-offended, blew his multi-million pound identity apart, and was re-arrested desperately trying to hide the evidence that he had been actively searching and downloading the hardest pornographic images of child rape underneath the noses of the probation and social services. In doing so, he comfirmed everything that the right said he would do before his release.<br /><br />He was released from Redbank young offenders institution posing 'no danger to society'. He was allowed to work in direct contact with children. No warnings were issued to parents in the area in which he was housed.<br /><br />Following his reincarceration his next parole hearing comes up shortly, you may have seen that Denise and Ralph Bulger are using all their efforts to keep Jon Venables locked up so that they can try to protect other children from him. I admire their persistence. <br /><br />He will undoubtedly be released though, with a new multi-million pound identity. He will also undoubtedly re-offend because he is a sociopath that has paedophilic urges. He's well versed with telling psychiatrists exactly what they need to know, he's been talking to them since he was 10.<br /><br />Now look at the above, a case presented simply and honestly, any reasonable person doesn't need to know any further facts to say that this man should be incarcerated forever.<br /><br />Then look at the left, the scourge of society, the disease that still thinks people like this can be reformed to the detriment of their victims. No doubt, they'll go quiet again for a bit when another child dies.<br /><br />I'll leave you with one comment under an article in the Mail regarding his imminent parole hearing:<br /><br />'He needs treatment and obviously support as he can't cope with day to day life - if he's been under the care of doctors and guidance/supervision is in place then I think he has to be given a chance at life. He was a child when the murder happened and we should be better than a lynch mob.'<br /><br />How utterly disgusting.Chris Fleminghttp://chrisdfleming.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com