Transcript: Victim Interview
Sergeant Copper: For the tape, my name is Sergeant Copper.
Also present are Elspeth Socialworker and representing Miss Young-Person is her solicitor
Gloria Law. [pause, shuffling of papers, scuffing of chairs]
Now, Miss Young-Person, can you tell us, in your own
words, why you are here today?
Young-Person: I want to give a statement. I want to tell
my story. [pause] He promised me sweets if I went with him.
SC: Sweets?
Y-P: Yes. I like sweets
SC: Did he say what kind of sweets?
Y-P: No. He just promised me that there would be sweets;
whatever I wanted.
SC: Did you take the sweets?
Y-P: No, because [pause, sobbing] well, I never saw the
sweets. I mean, he sounded perfectly plausible. You know... whatever type of
sweet I said I liked he said I could have. If I wanted mints he said he would
get me mints. If I wanted toffees, then toffees I would have, he told me. But I
never saw any toffees... or mints.
SC: I see. Did he ask you to do anything in return for
these sweets? Anything for him?
Y-P: I don’t know, really. I mean, he didn’t ask us to
actually, you know, do anything. Not as such. I think he just wanted us to love
him. He smelled funny. Like camphor, or something.
SC: Us?
Y-P: Yes. At first I thought it might just be me; maybe I
was... chosen. He made me feel special, you know, like a kind old grandad. And although
he seemed a little lonely, as if he really needed me, he made me think it was
all about me and that the world was there just for my benefit. He told me that
no matter what I wanted, he would make it happen.
Gloria Law: It is. It is your human right that whatsoever
your heart desires, you shall have it. Because it is your irrevocable human
right to be happy and successful.
Y-P: Yes, but I thought he meant only me. He spoke
directly to me, from my smart phone... at least, I thought he did. But then,
when I went to meet him, I discovered I wasn’t the only one at all. There were
thousands just like me.
Sergeant Copper: And what happened, when you met the
others?
Y-P: Well, they were all very nice. All like me; just
like me, in fact. They all had a sort of ‘glow’ about them, as if they – we –
had all been drugged, or enchanted or something. I felt like I had no option
but to do what everybody else did. I didn’t feel special so much then, more
like we were all the same. I wasn’t sure I liked it, but I felt I had to play
along because...
SC: Because, what?
Y-P: He held us in a sort of trance. It felt like we all
knew the words to the song and if we tried to sing different words... well, it
didn’t feel like an option I dared to try. You know, I sort of felt that even
if I didn’t agree with what he was saying, I still had to sing the correct
words, or else... I don’t know. We just all sang along, whatever we were
feeling inside.
SC: You had to sing?
Y-P: He made us chant his name.
SC: Oh?
Y-P: [sings] Jeremy Corbyn...
Jeremy... not as other children.
Elspeth Socialworker: Well, you are safe now. Your
parents are coming to pick you up after this interview. But we need you to do one
last thing, before you go. Sergeant?
[indistinct noises. A box is placed on the table: video
evidence accompanies this transcript]
Sergeant Copper: Miss Young-Person, using the doll, would
you show us exactly where he touched you?